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Catholic Exchange Forums Forum: Homeschooling http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Catholic Exchange Forums Forum: Homeschooling en Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:24:14 +0000 melindamanthei on "Holy Toys" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/689#post-13294 Sat, 10 May 2008 21:46:55 +0000 melindamanthei 13294@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Hello! I also wanted to share with you this wonderful DVD! Holy Baby is the name and they also have plush toys on their website. It is a lot like Baby Einstein but they show Catholic images. Things like statues of saints, Mary, Jesus. Also, they go over prayers and say/play parts of the Mass. Holy Baby, Jesus loves me is the DVD I have and my kids absolutely love it! Something to definitely look into. :) lpioch on "Holy Toys" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/689#post-13270 Tue, 06 May 2008 11:53:13 +0000 lpioch 13270@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Welcome, SheafMom, Please be patient with the site as it is undergoing some transitions. Things are at a lull right now because of it, but there's a great community here. Keep checking in...and check out all the past fora discussions. Enjoy! SHEAFMom on "Holy Toys" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/689#post-13269 Tue, 06 May 2008 11:33:52 +0000 SHEAFMom 13269@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Very nice. I wanted to add <a href="http://catholicfolktoys.com" rel="nofollow">http://catholicfolktoys.com</a> These are hand painted Saint dolls by a homeschooling mama who had been in our homeschool group before she moved to SC. She even does custom dolls; like unusual Saints or your child in their First communion clothes. I am obviously a huge fan :-) I even blogged about them here...http://thewebsterfamily.com/2008/01/24/catholicfolktoyscom/ and here...http://thewebsterfamily.com/2008/04/06/whats-up-lately/ I am new to this forum and I am looking forward to meeting new "friends" who are also in love with Christ, His Church and homeschooling. payton1997 on "who is in" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/701#post-12034 Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:40:46 +0000 payton1997 12034@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ jmj home schooling group is sso fun staceyjohnson on "Some general questions" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/686#post-11943 Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:02:38 +0000 staceyjohnson 11943@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Our family has been homeschooling since my oldest was in 1st grade. She's a jr in high school now. We have 4 children, two with "special needs" (dyslexia, high functioning autism, plus some medical stuff), ages 16, 14, 9, and 8. We have generally functioned without a homeschool support group. Sometimes there haven't been any that were Catholic (and yes, it matters a LOT, learned that the hard way) and sometimes, we're just too busy doing the "regular" school stuff to have time for much of the extra stuff that a support group does with the kids. Not that I don't think that extra stuff is nice, but for me, it's in the "nice but not necessary" category and with my kids, sometimes it's all we can manage to get the "necessary but not always nice" stuff done. That said, our current parish has about 40 or 50 homeschooling families(!!!) and we do occasional things with them, even though we are a far flung Latin Mass community with people in all directions. (Ex: once a month ice skating at a rink about 45 minutes from our house, parties for big Holy Days/seasons, etc.) My kids also see their homeschooling friends after Mass on Sunday, at youth group, and so on.Really, the academics would be the least of the reasons that we homeschool, though they are certainly important and I think that we do a good job of it. What I love about it is that1) our Faith is a part of our entire life, from the time we get up to the time we go to bed, every day of the week, and I get to make sure that my children are properly brought up in it. As a parent, that is ultimately my responsibility. I can delegate it, of course, but I'm the one who will have to answer to God for it. Some CCD programs and Catholic schools are good...but many are not. Many unfortunately present a very watered-down (at best) version of our Faith, and our kids deserve better than that. As Leo XIII said, "By nature parents have a right to the training of their children, but with this added duty that the education and instruction of the child be in accord with the end for which by God's blessing it was begotten. Therefore it is the duty of parents to make every effort to prevent any invasion of their rights in this matter, and to make absolutely sure that the education of their children remain under their own control in keeping with their Christian duty, and above all to refuse to send them to those schools in which there is danger of imbibing the deadly poison of impiety" (Sapientiae Christianae).2) My children are actually friends. Sure, we have our moments--that's to be expected--but they actually all play together, enjoy each other's company, and don't seem to be very bothered by the difference in ages. 3) I can tailor the plan to suit the child. If something is not working, nothing prevents me from changing it, be it the text we are using or the schedule for our day. 4) I get to be with my favorite people in the world a whole lot!! I can never understand those folks who, part way through the summer break, are saying things like, "I can't wait until school starts again!" I'm thinking, "Gee, if you don't like being around them, what makes you think that anyone else will?" And I have yet to figure out why they would say something like that in the presence of their children, but they do! What kind of message does that send?!?!Gotta go do some stuff and will not be back here until next Sunday, but that's a start. ;o) anne thompson on "The witness of one homeschooled adult" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/695#post-12011 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:37:40 +0000 anne thompson 12011@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Dear Matty,I am very happy for the wonderful experience you have had with home schooling.   Ray II on "Some general questions" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/686#post-11942 Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:13:16 +0000 Ray II 11942@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Sorry for not responding earlier, but here is a little info in no particular order from what I know and remember (and yes, my wife actually does the schooling, so she is infinitely more versed in this than I am).....anyway: How we started and why-We started homeschooling while station overseas (1.5 hr bus ride to school for half day kindergarten and our son was already at a 1st grade level). We continued once we retunred to the States, which worked out well since I was soon in Iraq and the boys needed to be with their mom more. Tried public schools because mom wasn't sure she could do it and wanted a break. One year later she swore never again, pulled them out and went on her own. Oldest is now 12, next one 11 on Saturday, and youngest (in school) is 5. What we have used and why we do it now-Started out reading every book under the sun, mainly stuck to a classic curriculum. Laura Berquist kind of stuff. Initially we got school in a box, good structure, a little dry, but they were young. She got tired of the structure and went with designing her own curriculum. Did that for a few years now and it's worked out well. Next year she is using Seton (based on lesson planning burnout) and designing most of the supplementals herself. For the kindergartener we use "What every Kindergartener Should Know" and play to his strengths for everything (math activity books, puzzles, etc.).We still do it because we have seen too many kids from the public school system and noticed that they had similar behavior patterns. Homeschooling has allowed us to make a very large impact on how our children behave, how they treat others, how they view their faith, and to some extent (not that we are trying to shelter them) has kept them fairly innocent. The main reason has been that we want their faith formation to be strong enough that they question their faith while they are able to get correct answers, rather than setting them off on their own hoping they fly. Seeing other families that think along the same lines helps immensely. What we have done and plan to do-My wife belonged to several homeschool groups over the years, from secular to strictly Catholic. Only advice here is read the label and the fine print. If it's secular, you'll be discussing materials and techniques, but not religion. If it's strictly Catholic, you'll get both sides of the formula. If it's any group that asks you to sign a "statement of belief", run the other way. You will spend more time defending yourself than being yourself. There are national groups, I will get the info from my smarter half tomorrow.At this point my wife is actually talking about going all the way through high school with the boys. Neither one of us is a college graduate. You do not need to be a rocket scientist. You do need to know when you are unable to do something and ask for help from a homeschooling friend, your curriculum provider, tutors, etc. Even if it's just to learn the material yourself so you can teach it. As for the group we are in now, oddly enough, my wife started it. She belonged to several groups around the Columbus, OH area to fill all the gaps. The Catholic one was decent, just a little far to drive for activities. They were also a lot more formal with field trips, group studies, events, and so on. They even needed a treasurer for the very modest group fees (not mandatory, by the way). My wife and a friend from this group wanted to do something a little less rigorous as well as closer to home. They now have roughly 50 families in their group. Weekly play dates and the occassional event (zoo, pumpkin ride, museum tour) and throughout the week, they will get together in ones or twos if they so desire. It's more of a loose network for support and weekly fun. Talking to other adults is needed to maintain sanity. So, short story long, that is some of what we do. I will say that both parents should be on board for this. If only one is, it will be a harder load to shoulder. Still doable, you would just need a local group to bolster yourself. Local can also be online as there are more than a few discussion boards, some very good Catholic ones (Ora et Labora is my wife's favorite). As for the kids, ours went from HS to PS back to HS. They prefer the hours and the setting of HS, they have said they really only miss the activities from public school. We know people who have forced the issue. If you have older children and you're a strong parent, then pray and you will survive the backlash from your teen. If you're not a strong parent, pray a lot and you will survive the backlash from your teen. If you are called to do it, you're called. Can't fight that. OK, I've rambled on long enough, my wife will probably read this and set the record straight where I have foggy spots. Hope it helps and if you have any questions, please post. Ray melindamanthei on "Some general questions" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/686#post-11941 Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:25:57 +0000 melindamanthei 11941@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ on a journey,This is not a response to your comment, just an addition, if you will. I, too have been going back and forth with, "should I or shouldn't I". I have three children, ages 9, 2 and 10 months. I have decided to bite the bullet and just do it!!! I am starting the Seton homestudy program in May and figure I have nothing to lose. If things don't work out, then my son will just start back at school in Sept. I too have always admired those who homeschool their children, but have always thought it wasn't for me. I'm a bit nervous about their future resting in my hands, but I'm positive the Lord is leading me to do this so here I go! As for a homeschooling group in your area, we live in a really small town and have managed to find a wonderful group. Just finding a few moms who homeschool would be pretty helpful! I wish I could answer something for you, but I have nothing to give. Sorry. I will pray for you and your family! Good luck and God Bless!!   stccp on "Catholic entertainment group announces Talent Search and Spring Auditions." http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/691#post-11987 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:50:29 +0000 stccp 11987@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Saint Cecilia Classical Productions Inc. is a new pro-life, pro-family, music-based, Catholic apologetics apostolate. Our basic purpose is to provide orthodox Catholic entertainers who can be good role models for today’s young people, and, at the same time, impart the truths of the faith to them. We are currently conducting a nationwide talent search (US & Canada) for traditional Catholic young ladies of exceptional musical ability in the area of classical voice (soprano ranges). Additional abilities in the areas of piano and or violin would be very helpful. High school or college age young ladies, or recent college graduates, especially those with degrees in music, are encouraged to apply. Home-schooled individuals are most welcome. Auditions are planned for early March and late May. Interested young ladies may mail or e-mail (preferred) their resume with repertoire to: Music Director St. Cecilia Classical Productions P.O. Box 129, Green, Ohio 44232 <a href="mailto:info@saintceciliaclassicalproductions.org">info@saintceciliaclassicalproductions.org</a> For more information about our work & requirements, please visit our web site at: <a href="http://www.saintceciliaclassicalproductions.org" rel="nofollow">www.saintceciliaclassicalproductions.org</a> on a journey on "Some general questions" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/686#post-11940 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:50:01 +0000 on a journey 11940@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Hello Homeschoolers. I realize you are all much busier than others here on this forum but maybe, if you have some thoughts, you could share them with me over the next few weeks. Yes, I am "on a journey". I need to start addressing the non-stop tape running through my head....it keeps playing the same thing, over and over, ....."Why are you not homeschooling the kids?".  I thought I'd start here. I have so many questions as I am very unsure about how I feel about homeschooling--that is, homeschooling for ME. I so admire homeschooling families but it just doesn't seem like something I can do--and I don't mean the academics of it. I have no doubt I can actually teach my children. I'm just not sure about pulling them all out of Catholic school---against all of their desires. (And their desires are important but I would not base the decision solely on that---I don't believe school choice is a childs' choice to make.) So, if you have the time (or the inspiration to make the time ;) ) can you tell me how you came to be a homeschooling family? How many kids? Ages? We have 7--age 15 down to 15 months.Has anyone here gone from Catholic school to homeschooling? (My kids LOVE school---I've never had a problem getting them there--they love it and in fact have said they do not want to homeschool as they would miss their teachers and classmates, etc.)Does anyone NOT have a homeschooling support group? (I ask in this way as this is not something that would be easy to find--it may be that I would have to travel to get into one or try to rally the very few homeschoolers here in our town--although none of them are Catholic.) Enough for now. I know how busy you all are so I truly appreciate any response at all. Thanks and through this all..... Jesus, I Trust in You!    Cheryl A Dickow on "Children's Activity and Coloring Books " http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/694#post-12007 Sun, 30 Dec 2007 05:50:54 +0000 Cheryl A Dickow 12007@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ I would love to point out a couple of great children's books by Catholic authors that have received 5 star reviews from Lisa Hendey. <a href="http://catholicmom.com/br_sabatini.htm">http://catholicmom.com/br_sabatini.htm</a><a href="http://catholicmom.com/br_mcdunn_kids.htm">http://catholicmom.com/br_mcdunn_kids.htm</a> zeland2236 on "Impressive New Catholic Website for Families!" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/696#post-12014 Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:48:27 +0000 zeland2236 12014@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/    Dear Sir, Can you post this notice on the "Homeschooling" section of your web site. Thank you & Merry Christmas. Jim Baltrinic   Attention homeschooling parents & families who come from a Latin Tridentine Mass tradition. Saint Cecilia Classical Productions Talent Search     Saint Cecilia Classical Productions Inc., a new pro-life, pro-family, Catholic entertainment / apologetics apostolate, is currently conducting a nationwide talent search for traditional Catholic young ladies of exceptional music ability in the area of classical voice (soprano ranges). Additional abilities in the areas of piano and or violin would be very helpful.   High school and college-age young women or recent college graduates, especially those with degrees in music are encouraged to apply. Home schooled individuals are also most welcome.  Although not a requirement, fluency in Italian would be very desirable. A good understanding of Latin would be an additional plus.     For more information, please visit our web site at:   <a href="http://www.saintceciliaclassicalproductions.org" rel="nofollow">www.saintceciliaclassicalproductions.org</a>   Interested ladies may mail or e-mail (preferred) resume with repertoire to:   St. Cecilia Classical Productions Inc., P.O. Box 129, Green, Ohio 44232.   <a href="mailto:stccp@sssnet.com">stccp@sssnet.com</a>     pouliot on "Spelling" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/702#post-12050 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:00:31 +0000 pouliot 12050@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Re: cgjoe's post: <blockquote>"...formerly..."</blockquote>Is that you Joe H.?  What's with the formerly? <dl><dt>Regards,</dt><dd>Old Sigma (Cradle Catholic [Latin rite] & generally inveterate amateur) [at]CatholicExchange.com will reach me off forum.</dd></dl> wljewell on "The Ultimate Resource 2" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/699#post-12022 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 10:58:50 +0000 wljewell 12022@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ God loves you . Have them re-compose 'We All Live in a Yellow Submarine' into 'We All Live in a Happy Family' and make the song fit - record and market through CE. Marketing cover - the band members at three years old. "On the vibes for The Happy Family . . ." I repeat - "LARGE families. (Whoo-hoo!)". Remember, I love you, too . In our delighted glory in our Infant King, Pristinus Sapienter (wljewell @catholicexchange.com or ... yahoo.com) pouliot on "Spelling" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/702#post-12051 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:40:15 +0000 pouliot 12051@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Re: P.S.'s post: <blockquote>"...world's oldest..."</blockquote>If only wisdom went along with that!  But, as you know we are both in that "old" ark together.  (Good to trade syllables with you again.) <dl><dt>Regards,</dt><dd>Old Sigma (Cradle Catholic [Latin rite] & generally inveterate amateur)</dd></dl> wljewell on "Spelling" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/702#post-12047 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:09:29 +0000 wljewell 12047@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ God loves you . Rather than most spelling, pouliot, I would like to have a greater feeling for just who it is I am 'talking' with. Their spelling is not as compelling as having a better feel for where they are coming from. Take yourself - your avatar - "the world's oldest First Communicant". Still that innocent boy at heart, huh? And, 'they're there in their house' is abused more than 'their place' or 'over there'. ;) Remember, I love you, too . In our delighted glory in our Infant King, Pristinus Sapienter (wljewell @catholicexchange.com or ... yahoo.com) cgjoe on "Spelling" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/702#post-12046 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:46:29 +0000 cgjoe 12046@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Raymond - Thanks for keeping us all straight in here! One VERY common mis-spelling is using "our" or "you" for "your" but I think in most cases it has more to do with mis-typing than mis-spelling! Joe (Yes, formerly of CGHQ)! mkochan on "The Ultimate Resource 2" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/699#post-12021 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:32:17 +0000 mkochan 12021@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Love that -- gotta show my kids. We just started three on mandolin. I already have four taking piano. And two started on guitar. Next up flute or recorders, fiddles, drums and xylophone. Now there are actually only four kids total taking lessons and so of course that means everyone is on more than one instrument. Plus the oldest is taking voice. I can't wait until they have a band! pouliot on "Spelling" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/702#post-12049 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:18:58 +0000 pouliot 12049@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Re: MKochan's post: <blockquote>"Where and there both have "here" in them. "</blockquote>Anything to help with "there" & "their?" <dl><dt>Regards,</dt><dd>Old Sigma (Cradle Catholic [Latin rite] & generally inveterate amateur)</dd></dl> payton1997 on "Spelling" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/702#post-12045 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 07:31:35 +0000 payton1997 12045@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ i like spelling its cool payton1997 on "who is in" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/701#post-12033 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 04:33:11 +0000 payton1997 12033@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ whos in jmj/jesus mary and josph home school group   post a coment if u are    truthwillmakeyoufree on "Children's Activity and Coloring Books " http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/694#post-12006 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:09:10 +0000 truthwillmakeyoufree 12006@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Sorry, here is the link: <a href="http://www.holyfamilypress.com">www.holyfamilypress.com</a> God bless again... :) truthwillmakeyoufree on "Children's Activity and Coloring Books " http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/694#post-12005 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:07:16 +0000 truthwillmakeyoufree 12005@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ I found a wonderful site for children's books called <a href="/Each%20book%20contains%20something%20for%20the%20child%20to%20cut%20out,%20color%20and%20keep.%20In%20the%20beginning%20of%20every%20book,%20there%20is%20a%20%E2%80%98mini%E2%80%99%20catechism%20followed%20by%20many,%20different%20puzzles%21" title="HOLY FAMILY PRESS">www.holyfamilypress.com</a> and they sell children's books, both activity and coloring books. Each book contains something for the child to cut out, color and keep. In the beginning of every book, there is a ‘mini’ catechism followed by many different puzzles.. I have gotten a set from them and they are excellent! The chilren are learning their Faith and it is really fun for them too.Please check out the site for yourself. I want others to benefit from these books as much as my kids also have. :) God bless... !   mkochan on "Spelling" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/702#post-12044 Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:07:07 +0000 mkochan 12044@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Where and there both have "here" in them. That is what I tell my little kids when they are learning to spell them. We just learn all three of those words together. pouliot on "Spelling" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/702#post-12048 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:58:49 +0000 pouliot 12048@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Re: NeedAsaint's post: <blockquote>"...there, their..."</blockquote>From reecent posts it appears that Need a saint would have helped the CE forum community if a little explanation or hint on how to distinguish one from the other of these words had been included.Anyone have a good one?How about "There is no way I'm going to visit their three caves." <dl><dt>Regards,</dt><dd>Old Sigma (Cradle Catholic [Latin rite] & generally inveterate amateur)</dd></dl> pouliot on "Preparing the Teachers" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/697#post-12016 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:47:32 +0000 pouliot 12016@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Re: P.S.'s post: <blockquote>"...ideas for your higher-faculty reading..."</blockquote>The Art of Teaching by Gilbert Highet<dl><dt>Regards,</dt><dd>Old Sigma (Cradle Catholic [Latin rite] & generally inveterate amateur)</dd></dl> wljewell on "Preparing the Teachers" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/697#post-12015 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:59:11 +0000 wljewell 12015@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ God loves you . Just a thought on reading for you teachers - I mean, I can't see you looking over at your nine-year-old and reminding - "John, remember, Thucydides report Monday". From the <a href="http://www.wyomingcatholiccollege.com/tabid/192/Default.aspx">reading list (http://www.wyomingcatholiccollege.com/tabid/192/Default.aspx)</a> for students at the new Wyoming Catholic College - NOW - now, that place seems cool enough to prepare good old 9-y-o John and the whole home team for. For the time being, ideas for your higher-faculty reading, eh? Remember, I love you, too Reminding that we are all on the same side - His, Pristinus Sapienter (wljewell @catholicexchange.com or ... yahoo.com) Jen Mary on "Holy Toys" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/689#post-11984 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:20:28 +0000 Jen Mary 11984@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ Hi, I discovered these Holy Toys and wanted to share them with you. Jesus, Mary, Esther, Moses, David, Goliath, Noah, Samson and other Holy Dolls. The Spirit Warriors are great for the boys as well as the Jesus Doll. They recite their biography and bible verses. Their is also a Toy Nativity. The web site is <a href="http://www.blessedtoys.com/members/jenmary">www.blessedtoys.com/members/jenmary</a> wljewell on "The Ultimate Resource 2" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/699#post-12020 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:40:16 +0000 wljewell 12020@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ God loves you . (HINT: This resource(s) in your house are grinning up at you right now.) This seemed so useful in posting at the article about Freedonomics' findings about abortion and crime, I thought it might help homeschooling parents to look into this . . . I refer you to Julian L. Simon’s book, <a href=”http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Resource-Julian-Lincoln-Simon/dp/0691003815/ref=sr_1_1/104-0152325-0553561?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186963754&sr=1-1”>The Ultimate Resource 2</a>, by which he demonstrates informatively and in depth how maximized population is key to maximized economy. You see, folks, in falling for the Sanger, et al, line – we have been screwing our very own selves. Isn't 'American education' wonderful? So - since you are clever enough not to trust your treasures to 'American education', I thought that you might use this as a source book for teaching against abortion and for families - LARGE families. (Whoo-hoo!) Grats to the Lady Mary Kochan, whose earlier post somewhere-out-there put me on to this important work. Remember, I love you, too Reminding that we are all on the same side - His, Pristinus Sapienter (wljewell @catholicexchange.com or ... yahoo.com) PS: And you folks who'd like your kids to get more into music - get a load of <a href="http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=15477395">these squirts! (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=15477395)</a> - heard any garage band come close? pouliot on "The witness of one homeschooled adult" http://forums.catholicexchange.com/topic/695#post-12010 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 05:35:35 +0000 pouliot 12010@http://forums.catholicexchange.com/ To: MMCC Wonderful post.  Thank you! <dl><dt>Regards,</dt><dd>Old Sigma (Cradle Catholic & generally inveterate amateur)</dd></dl>