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What's with certain Parishes?

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bhokuto - Member
I've gone to several parishes in my area and the beliefs and teachings differ too far and wide.  Night and Day.  I can feel the spirit.  One place says belch, the other says yipes, the other says hmm...

I went to Mass(Church building) where the priest gathered all the materials to build the building.  Inside and outside.   I was astonished that a priest was allowed to do so.  What was more astonishing was the fact that he bought materials from other churches that went belly up and at a bargain price.  The church is beautiful and large.  Very nice.

I can't even begin to explain, vast difference between one parish and another.  I get confused sometimes and sigh........  yet I cannot abandon the One Holy Apostolic Catholic Faith.

Peace
Posted 1 year ago #
fishman - Member

bhokuto - consider that we are all human.  As such heresy , and untruthfulness has always lived side by side with the light of christ even as it does in our own human bodies.

 

I would that the kingdom of heaven were fullfilled and the church purfied, but we wait for the second comming where the people of God as a whole will say 'it is finished'.

 

 

as a side note.... variance withing parishes and the extent to which it exists is a function of your bishop.  If it really bothers you , talk to him.

 

Posted 1 year ago #
bhokuto - Member
I thank God I'm not a Protestant. I would end up starting a new denomination.
Posted 1 year ago #
fishman - Member

bhokuto - i understand.

I also believe we only now just begining to  recover from this ( it may take a while):

( exert from the larger story:

http://www.catholicherald.com/saunders/03ws/ws031002.htm)

As Catholics, we have remembered through our liturgical rites the important role of St. Michael in defending us against Satan and the powers of evil.

For the greater part of this century, the faithful recited the prayer to St. Michael at the end of the Mass. Pope Leo XIII (d. 1903) had a prophetic vision of the coming century of sorrow and war. After celebrating Mass, the Holy Father was conferring with his cardinals. Suddenly, he fell to the floor. The cardinals immediately called for a doctor. No pulse was detected, and the Holy Father was feared dead. Just as suddenly, Pope Leo awoke and said, "What a horrible picture I was permitted to see!" In this vision, God gave Satan the choice of one century in which to do his worst work against the Church. The devil chose the 20th century.

So moved was the Holy Father from this vision that he composed the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel: "St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle! Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God, cast into Hell, Satan, and all the other evil spirits who roam about the world seeking the ruin of souls." Pope Leo ordered this prayer said at the conclusion of Mass in 1886. (When Pope Paul VI issued the Novus Ordo of the Mass in 1968, the prayer to St. Michael and the reading of the "last gospel" at the end of the Mass were suppressed.)

 

 

 

Posted 1 year ago #

I thank God I'm not a Protestant. I would end up starting a new denomination.

I second that!  Thank God.  It is confusing enough being a Catholic.  Yet I do dig it so!

GK - God is good!

Posted 1 year ago #
fishman - Member

I thank God I'm not a Protestant. I would end up starting a new denomination.

 

I concure as well... ( the church of fishman has a nice ring ;)

Posted 1 year ago #
bhokuto - Member
Gk, Fishman,

what do you think about the different Catholic rites( orthodox, benedictine, Greek)?  Eastern vs. Western
or Eastern and Western and the different brotherhoods and sisterhoods and so forth?

Peace
Posted 1 year ago #
fishman - Member
God is infinate, diversity of creatures expresses this.  bodies have different organs so does Jesus's body. They all must be in union with the head.  I somtimes think of protestant denominations as peices of jesus body that were torn away with whip when he was sourged.  They still are like his body in some ways , but either dead or dieing or haning on by just a thread of skin.
Posted 1 year ago #

bh,

I am looking forward to introducing my children to the different rites as time goes by.  I have a list of Churches that are near my home that I would like to attend.

The beauty of our faith is so much more than just one way or the highway.

fishman,

The scourged body of Christ is a great analogy.  I will make use of it in time to help our brothers.

 

Thanks to both of you for all you are on this site and in life,

Your brother in Christ,

George

GK - God is good!

Posted 1 year ago #
bhokuto - Member
fishman,  in japanese "sakana tsurisan",

interesting you think of denoms in that way.

I didn't think of it that way until I read a book.
More or less they are torn off and dangling around.  

Have to wait for Christ to mend the pieces through the Blessed Mother.

Gk,

There's a Greek Orthodox Church down the street I've been invited to, but haven't gone.  The person who invited me said they do not receive
communion so I hesitated,  Bad excuse.  I'll have to catch up with the person and go.

What I was getting at was the different ways in which the Church has
practices and beliefs.  I'm wondering if and when they will all just drop their hats, and plus the Roman rite to acknowledge their "gifts" for a lack of a better word to define what I'm trying to say.  It seems to me that there has to be a reconcilation within in order for the whole Church to be fit.  Yet this is me speaking what I sense.

Peace
Posted 1 year ago #
fishman - Member

are you talking about the greek orthadox devide ?

There are many 'greek' churchs that are in no way devided from the roman church they simply practice a different expression of the liturgy.

The greek orthadox are not one of them however.

" Eastern Catholic Churches

The definition of an Eastern-Rite Catholic is: A Christian of any Eastern rite in union with the pope: i.e. a Catholic who belongs not to the Roman, but to an Eastern rite. They differ from other Eastern Christians in that they are in communion with Rome, and from Latins in that they have other rites. "

 

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05230a.htm

 

 

Posted 1 year ago #
bhokuto - Member
I'm not sure which one because the person was not to informative of exactly which one.  Maybe the guy used a different word which means totally something else.  Another words it might not be called Holy Communion.  Where as in the Roman rite that's what it is.  Have to read up on the bulletin what they offer.

One roof one name.

Peace
Posted 1 year ago #
fishman - Member

yes, the question to ask is are they in union with the pope.

If not they are one of the seperated eastern churches, I believe now there are 29 eastern churches in full communion with rome , but there are still others that do not acklowdge the pope with the authority of peter or all the decrees of the various conciles.

 

( not all of them require belife in the perpetual virginity for instance).

Posted 1 year ago #

I was referring to the Rites that are in union with Rome when I talked about visiting with my kids.  If they are not in union with Rome then I say "Major bummer!"  I am thinking Pope Benedict will do his best to get us all back together.  It probably all wont happen during his papacy but I sense that eventually it will.  Heck for the sake of Christ, I think people will move toward unity.  Through prayer and grace of course.

A priest told me that evey church should have a book called "Parish Directory" that lists all the Catholic Churches in America.  Kind of like a yellow pages.  It has all the Churches that are in union with Rome.  So, you can ask to see it and look that parish up.

 

Rites in union with Rome: Maronite, Syro-Malabar, Armenian Catholic, Ethiopian, Byzantine Russian, Byzantine Ruthenian, Byzantine Ukrainian, Byzantine Syriac, Melkite Byzantine and Romanian Byzantine.  There may be more.  But, before assuming a parish is in union with Rome, check or ask.  All roads should lead to Rome but they don't.  Dang it!

GK - God is good!

Posted 1 year ago #
bhokuto - Member
Gk,

Lets evangelize them all.  

I think I understand  Wink

Peace

Posted 1 year ago #

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