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Our Judeo-Christian Civilization

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  • Started 11 months ago by noelfitz
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noelfitz - Member

Last night I was at a talk given by a Jewish scholar, which was sponsored by the Church of Ireland Theological College and the Milltown Institute and partially funded by the Israeli Embassy.

The talk considered how the Dead Sea scrolls influenced both Judaism and Christianity.  

The Church of Ireland Theological College (http://www.citc.ie/) trains people for the Church of Ireland (Anglican, Episcopalian, Protestant) ministry, while the Milltown Institute was founded 40 years ago to teach philosophy and theology to Catholic seminarians (http://www.milltown-institute.ie/).

The lecture was inspiring and got huge applause.  It was interesting to note that in this week of the Church Unity Octave and when this week-end the Holocaust/Shoa will be commemorated that a lecture supported by Catholics, Protestants and Jewes could be held in which there wasa no disagreement mentioned.

The speaker pointed out how the Qumran community influenced the teaching of Jesus and also modern Judaism.

Was it  surprising that a Jew could give  Christians such an insight into their religion?  

Jesus and Paul were Jews who taught early Christians about their religion.
Posted 11 months ago #
Tarheel - Member

Interesting noel.  It appears that you have witnessed something that all three groups, Catholics-Protestants-Jews, are practicing what Jesus taught us.  "Love one another."

 

 

Tarheel (Dave)

Posted 11 months ago #
David T Garrison - Inactive

Noel,

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I want to party with you!

In Christ,

There, now you have a couple of little Abe Lincolns from me...

Remember, the Sun is always shining!

Posted 11 months ago #
michaelme - Member
Noel: That sure sounds like it would have been great to attend. I have a question about the comment, "...the Qumran community influenced the teaching of Jesus:" Isn't this stated (likely by the presenter) in a manner to indicate that Jesus was not Divine? That He didn't receive his teaching power and authority from Himself, the Father, and the Spirit? In Christ, Michael
"The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried"
- GK Chesterton "The poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese." - also GKC
Posted 11 months ago #
Winslow - Inactive

"...the Qumran community influenced the teaching of Jesus:"

 

You got it, Michael.  Definitely an heretic idea if it came from a Christian.  Since it didn't, it's merely garden variety denial.

 

Peace

Posted 11 months ago #
bhokuto - Member
Divine answer.

Peace
Posted 11 months ago #
fishman - Member

I recently ran across the same vain in a homily.  To say a community influenced the teachings of jesus is probably not really very accurate at best they may have provided a set constructs he used in teaching.  The homily I attended didn't make that claim , but drew more of a connection between that community and john the baptist , noting that they had ritual washing in Qumran and stating that John genius was re-interpreting that symble for the forgiveness of sin.

 

 

Posted 11 months ago #
noelfitz - Member

Perhaps I did not give a full description of the talk.

The Jewish lecturer said that after the death of John the Baptist some of his followers joined Jesus, and a number of these had been involved with the Qumran community, hence their ideas in turn influenced Jesus and the  Sermon on the Mount.

Our Christian ideas have also been influenced by classical Greco-Roman ideas and those from Judaism, so it is not surprising that the views of Jesus had been held by some non-Christians.

The views expressed in the lecture did not, I consider, in any way negate the divinity of Jesus.

The speaker was very careful not to say anything contrary to Christianity or Judaism. He was scholarly, humorous, and enthralling, but had great respect for the views of all attending his lecture.

God bless,


NoelFitz.
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