B
You wrote:
James: St. James brother of St. John
Are you suggesting that James the brother of John wrote the Letter of James? If so I would question this opinion.
Most consider thsat James called the Brother of the Lord, who became the leader of the Christians in Jerusalem, was more likely the author.
God bless,
NoelFitz.
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In necessariis, unitas; in dubiis, libertas; in omnibus, caritas.
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B
Thank you for your reply to me.
You might like to look at the Anchor Bible Dictionary (David Noel Freedman, The Anchor Bible Dictionary, 3:616 (New York: Doubleday, 1996, c1992)).
Three persons bearing the name James are relatively familiar to us from the NT. Fully half of the occurrences refer unquestionably to James the son of Zebedee, one of the twelve disciples chosen by Jesus. Next most frequently referred to, in about a quarter of the occurrences, is James the brother of Jesus, who was to assume the leadership of the early Jerusalem church. A second disciple named James is mentioned in all four lists of the Twelve, being specified as the son of Alphaeus.
Incidentally I am surprised you did not refer to St Timothy in Paul’s Letters.
Please see again the ABD
TIMOTHY (PERSON) [Timotheos (????????)]. A missionary associate, fellow worker, and trusted emissary of Paul over an extended period of time. Timothy is mentioned after Paul in the prescript of various Pauline letters as a cosender of those letters, Thess 1:1; 2 Cor 1:1; Phil 1:1; Philemon 1; cf. also 2 Thess 1:1; Col 1:1). He is variously identified as “our brother” (1 Thess 3:2; 2 Cor 1:1; Philemon 1), as “fellow worker” (1 Thess 3:2; Rom 16:21), and as Paul’s “beloved and faithful child in the Lord” (1 Cor 4:17; cf. 1 Tim 1:2) who enjoys a special relationship with this apostle (Phil 2:20–22; cf. 1 Tim 1:2, 18; 2 Tim 1:2; 2:1). Many interpreters also see the phrase “apostles of Christ” (1 Thess 2:6) as including Timothy along with Paul (and Silas).
God bless,B
You wrote:
I really suggest you read "Poem" the life of Jesus, his cousins and more just incredible.
Are we back to discussing this topic again?
I suggest you might like to read http://www.ewtn.com/library/SCRIPTUR/VALTORTA.TXT.
I quote from it:
IS "THE POEM OF THE MAN-GOD" SIMPLY A BAD NOVEL?
Maria Valtorta's multi-volume life of Jesus flirts with heresy and
exhibits bad taste. Its claim to authenticity have been rejected by Rome.
by Father Mitch Pacwa, S.J.
"The Poem of the Man-God" is a five-volume "narrative" of the life of
Jesus written in the 1940s by a sickly Italian woman named Maria Valtorta.
"Poem" purports to fill in the details of Jesus' life left blank by the
four Gospels. Such narratives have been produced since the second century
A.D. Some were written by gnostic heretics...
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"The Poem of the Man-God" is in this tradition of apocryphal literature on New Testament themes. Valtorta claimed that she was the "secretary" of Jesus and Mary, and was setting down the divinely inspired truth about Jesus' life. The Church has rejected this claim. Nevertheless, "Poem" has become quite popular, particularly among Catholics as well....
In fact, "Poem" was included on the Index of Forbidden books until the abolition of the Index in the 1960s. No less an authority than Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, reiterates the Church's rejection of the claims made for "The Poem of the Man-God."
NoelFitz.
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In necessariis, unitas; in dubiis, libertas; in omnibus, caritas.
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I also trust my brothers and sisters that God gave to me in my family.
Catholicism is a familial faith. I am a child of God. So are all my brothers and sisters. In families, good older brothers and sisters help the younger brothers and sisters to listen to and obey their Father. That's why God gave me siblings. Although they are human, too...God speaks to me and directs me through them. Don't ask me why He didn't set it up as a 1-on-1 alone faith. But we know He didn't. ONe of those things we will more fully understand in Heaven.
The me-and-God alone faith is not a Catholic faith.
b,
You are also not our parish priest. So apparently your postings are useless.
Only using your own logic here.
B
You wrote:
Listen to the Spirit. That's how saints became saints. They listened to the Spirit. If you listen to the Spirit, you obey God and anything man puts in front of you is a test from God to see how you deal with it.
Some time ago I suggested that you may have Gnostic tendenceies.
You disagreed.
Perhaps you might like to reconsider.
Ptreviously with tolerance, openness, respect, acceptance and humility (Torah) we discussed our differences.
Fundamentally we disagree in most things.
You claim flesh/body bad, education/learning bad, I claim the opposite.
Perhaps it is wonderful that there is room for us all in Catholicism.
Protestants have been accused of having different opinions among themselves. At present does the same hold for Catholics?
Thank you for your advice to me to
Study carefully always!
Are you exempt from this recommendsation, as you get knowledge directly from the Spirit?
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PS; Gnostics were "people who knew", and their knowledge at once constituted them a superior class of beings, whose present and future status was essentially different from that of those who, for whatever reason, did not know. A more complete and historical definition of Gnosticism would be:
A collective name for a large number of greatly-varying and pantheistic-idealistic sects, which flourished from some time before the Christian Era down to the fifth century, and which, while borrowing the phraseology and some of the tenets of the chief religions of the day, and especially of Christianity, held matter to be a deterioration of spirit, and the whole universe a depravation of the Deity, and taught the ultimate end of all being to be the overcoming of the grossness of matter and the return to the Parent-Spirit (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06592a.htm).
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God bless,
NoelFitz.
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In necessariis, unitas; in dubiis, libertas; in omnibus, caritas.
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B
I read your post with interest.
You wrote of me:
you have nothing in you of Christ.
I will think about this and examine my conscience carefully.
I am reminded of Robbie Burns:
"O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!"
God bless,
NoelFitz.
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In necessariis, unitas; in dubiis, libertas; in omnibus, caritas.
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b,
It was not my assertion, but yours.
You do not like your own "logic" used in turn on you.
I do not claim your "logic" is valid.
But I was showing you how illogical it was.
Now brothers, this is getting a little out of hand. Let's step back a little and see if we can follow Burns' advice.
B, I decided to stop debate with you because it's clear to me you know very little of authentic Catholic doctrine, yet speak as one who thinks he knows everything. The combination is a non-starter for me and I'm certain I'd be wasting my time and yours by trying to set you straight.
Your discourse has a certain hauteur by which you place yourself far above the rest of us, posting lengthy lectures which do nothing but leave confusion in their wake. The allegedly religious person you mentioned who bashed the Church said, among other things, "I don't need no pope to tell me what to think." Although your words are much more polite, you are saying exactly the same thing when you say, don't listen to the pope, don't listen to the bishops, listen to the Spirit and the Spirit and Scripture will lead you to the truth. That, whether you agree or not, is the protestant mantra.
You say you are a Catholic. You haven't convinced me. I can't figure out whether you're a protestant-Catholic or a Catholic-protestant, but I do know you have brought a lot of protestant baggage with you into the Catholic Church. I'm not the only one who thinks that. Read your lectures objectively, if you can, and you'll see it all there.
Yes, Loretta is not our parish priest, but she's not trying to convince us the thoughts of a crippled Italian woman are holy writ. This may shock you, but I've never heard of Fr. Jorge Fuentes or Bishop Roman Danylak and, without more, their opinions mean nothing to me. You ought to know there is a lot of money to be made if the writings of this alleged mystic you espouse can be made authentic. History has shown us some bishops and priests are not averse to money. I'm not making an accusation, but you'll agree with me these two men you quote are not exactly leaders of the Church. As of this date, no one I know is in a hurry to get to a bookstore to buy a copy of the book you recommend. Since you started the 'he's not my parish priest' back and forth, I think you owe Loretta an apology, but that's only my opinion. You do what you want.
You're right about noel being a little coy about his beliefs, but he is unfailingly polite about it. If you really want to know what he believes about a particular point of doctrine, why not ask him?
Peace
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