Yes, the word "Liberty" in the 14th Amendment was used to justify abortion.
However, "Liberty" does not give one the right to kill any more than the right to steal, lie, cheat, and so forth. In fact, the violation of another person's rights can loose you your rights. Example, violation of someone's property rights (stealing) can loose you your liberty rights (jail). Violating one's liberty rights (rape) can loose you your life rights (death penalty).
So, what is abortion, practical genocide, worthy of?
The legal fact is, even if abortion is protected under the word "Liberty," "Life" trumps it.
Yes, the 14th Amendment says all persons BORN in the US are citizens, however, it never restricts the word "person" to "birth." All it practically means is, if you don't want your child a US citizen, you have nine months (idealy) to leave. The 14th Amendment, in fact, implies by its very wording that the term "person" must be interprited broadly. Our founding fathers would agree that it was never ment to be interprited as "anglo-saxon males between the ages of 21 and 65."
Besides, even if you could somehow prove the Constitution to even posses a single loophole as to allow abortion (which I assure you doesn't exist), Natural Law would nullify it.
"Yes, the word "Liberty" in the 14th Amendment was used to justify abortion."My original post was not so much an attempt to explain the jurisprudence (false, I too believe, but for other reasons) that was used to overturn the regulation of abortion by individual states in the United States. What I was trying to point out is that a law prohibiting abortion cannot exist alongside a tradition of respect of individual freedom and religious pluralism because the pro-abortion mentality will always be able to deny the scientific facts and allege that the unborn child is not a person. Likewise clarifying the Constitution of the United States to extend personhood to the unborn would likely not be any more successful. All these approaches are fundamentally human-based. I think the problem is so deeply rooted in the culture of the world (with few exceptions) that the matter must be turned over the God.
I think daily prayer will do more to end this abomination than anything else. Just as we used to pray the Rosary for the conversion of Russia, we should pray (the Rosary and/or the Divine Mercy Chaplet) for the end of abortion, and moreover; that God will help us build a "culture of life"; a more gentle world in which the young, the old, and the infirm alike, are all treaty with dignity befitting their God-created natures. A society is correctly judged by how it treats its weakest members, and there is no doubt we have been found wanting.
That having been said, we should also use; politics (peace movements, labor movements, other social reform groups), and religious & cultural alliances (i.e.; work with Greek Orthodox, like-minded Protestants, Jews, Muslims, and the Buddhists. On the cultural side; work with and through Mexicans, Vietnamese, Italian, Ukranian, Irish, Ethiopian, and other Catholic immigrant groups, etc.), and the media (e.g., EWTN and other religious networks) and finally, we need to educuate of our children as best we can to achieve this goal.
I personally think that after prayer, educating our children on this is most important. If we teach our children so they understand that we are all creatures of God, and that while it is important to be nice to animals, any human being is infinitely more valuable than a dog or a mouse, and that at all times Christian charity, love and kindness should prevail, this will be more effective than any senator blathering on all day in Washington.
And I forgot to add that regardless of your party affiliation; ALWAYS vote for Pro-Life candidates, and ALWAYS vote against the (so-called) pro-Choice candidates.
I do this all the time. I know sometimes my economic interests lie with a particular pro-Choice candidate (I am a union man) but more importantly, I do not want to have to answer to God when I die just why it was that I voted to perpetuate this sort of awful thing. Believe me, I will have plenty of other things to answer for!
Even though politicians are boring and they blather on day in and day out, it would be better if at least they were Pro-Life ![]()
Jesus said you will always have the poor among you. Those poor unborn children!
I'm afraid it will only get worse. But look with your spiritual eyes and see the redemption of those poor unborn children! God is with the child! He is the defender of the Child! the helpless, the stranger, the cast out, the rejected! Look to God for such is the kingdom of God.
The laws of this country has some serious loopholes as we have seen and bear witness to, but it was created thus. Thus we know that it was not God who created these laws. If it was He, He would have stood by them. Thus He only created the Laws given unto Moses. Now what am I saying? Paul says that all authority is granted by God, not all authority repects and uses Gods exact perfect laws. Thus we shall know them by their fruit! So the faithful are not at fault. Instead the Faithful are called to Pray and make known the commandments given to Moses, so that God can see who is for life and who is not, exposing evil. ( God looks at the Heart ) Judgement is reserved for God who is the only Judge. Let us walk with boldness to a hidden life allowing the fruit of evil to be exposed so those who hear the Lamb of God can see with their hearts and come to Faith. (noisy gongs are useless) [1 Cor 13] The enemy wants to rile us to anger, God is the Avenger. Be angry and sin not, let not the sun go down on your anger.
Amen.
Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord God of Power and Might, Heaven and earth are full of your Glory!
Hosanna in the Highest!
pouliot
I'm affraid you assumed wrong. My last post was not it response to you, but Annie41 and Ederico (whom is a higher authority on that law stuff anyway, since he actually studied law at a university).
I am affraid, though, that the idea that the Pro-Life cause is incompattible with the principle of religious freedom is false. The Church clearly stands for religious freedom. You can't force religion, or at least, Christianity, on anyone. Christ requires an actual conversion of heart. The idea of a forced Christanity is oxymoranic. Logicaly, it can't exist.
Morality does, however, imply a God and requires a belief in the existence of God. This simply requires teaching sound philosophy, that's all.
Education and forced worship are two different things. You can convince someone that there is a God, but that doesn't mean he'll worship and adore Him. Logic and Love are two completely different things.
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