The Koran is used while teaching military drills and the use of weapons and explosives in a course titled "defense readiness" which is taught starting in the eight-grade. "Textbooks for this course include warnings against imminent attacks by the enemies, which assist in creating a siege mentality among the students." The article continues to "connect the dots": "The books also indoctrinate students to prepare for war by encouraging martyrdom. The spirit of martyrdom-seeking is nurtured by various means - with verses from the Koran, sayings by Shi'ite imams, with stories and poems that glorify past and present martyrs and with martyrs' wills that are read in class and posted on walls. The motif of the martyrs' blood and its symbol - the red tulip - are prominent features of the textbooks, and are expressed both verbally and through illustrations. "In these textbooks then, can be seen a fusing of religion and war and martyrdom, the preferred weapon against innocent and combatant alike. In the event it is necesasry to remind the reader, the religion in use here is not Christianity but Islam.
While it is definitely true that radical (some say they are maniacal fascists) Muslims are intent on causing all sorts of trouble and seem to want to drag us all over a cliff into a pit of madness, I think pope Benedict is correct in at least trying to establish a real, honest, and rational dialogue with the more reasonable Muslims.
I do not know how far he will get with this dialogue, but I give him credit for trying, and pray for his success.
I know it is not a free ride or anything like that, but I am always thankful to have been born Roman Catholic, and not Muslim - or anything else for that matter.
"I do not know how far he will get with this dialogue, but I give him credit for trying, and pray for his success."As we must all pray for the success of Christ's call.
Call it for what it really is.
These so called religious people are not really religious they put on the cloak using a religion based on the teachings of just a man to use it for a cause. (much like the Sanhedrin)
Jesus teaches us that the flesh profits nothing, ie, lusts of the flesh, lusts of the eyes, the pride of life. These come about as a result of Greed and Avarice. (we shall know them by their fruit)
Hence these so called religious who are really murders and thieves, tell their unsuspecting yet zealous disciples that their god has 100 virgins prepared for them in heaven. (Jesus tells us no marrying in Heaven, we will be like the Angels)
Satan prods on the zeal of life according to the flesh. Which are, lust of the flesh- a virgin who has not been humbled; lust of the eyes- beautiful virgins; pride of life, glory for a cause.
The funny part of about this is the so called Islamic radicals are being used themselves. The truth will always be exposed, as Jesus said nothing remains covered. For all will be exposed. This is God speaking not man. Man is always naked before God, the ungodly will be exposed. The fight is between the Church and Satan, the saints, with the faithful, with God and the Angels are fighting the pawns satan, those unto everlasting Glory and those unto everlasting damnation. Pauls tells us that we wrestle not with flesh and blood but with principalities and powers, spiritual wickedness in High Places. Thus we must think in terms of strategy as like unto a chess board. Black and White pieces. No inbetween. By the actions of man they are either a distraction or a pointer, God always directs us if we stay to our true north. Satan is the Great deciever, he casts illusions. Know the spirits at work as the Apostles have told us in our Teachings in the Bible, Test the spirits whether they be of God. For there are many Anti-Christs in this world.
God bless.
"The truth will always be exposed, as Jesus said nothing remains covered. For all will be exposed. This is God speaking not man. Man is always naked before God, the ungodly will be exposed. The fight is between the Church and Satan, the saints, with the faithful, with God and the Angels are fighting the pawns satan, those unto everlasting Glory and those unto everlasting damnation. "Do mortals ahve a role in this battle? What is it? Who will take the Gospel to these people? Where is our modern day St Francis?
I believe that God through the Virgin will do so and has been doing so for centuries. Each generation has new a challenge. I recall some place over near or in India a shrine to the Blessed Mother where pilgrims of all faiths(mostly non-christians) have been going for quite sometime. The Blessed Mother seems to be appearing there or because of great inner peace, miracles and such. Medjugorje, Fatima, Lourdes, Places in Russia, Japan, America, Egypt and countless numerous places. I believe Just as she brought Jesus to the Jews, the world, She will bring us to Jesus again. What does this mean? I'm not talking about prayer, I'm talking about the actual Jesus.
The Virgin my friend! She is the answer!
If I recall the Apocalypse says "and the saints" so I believe at some point we will see many saints not just one. A remnant also is spoken of, I personally do not know how many are included in this remnant.
Also over the years there have been some here and there mystics who have made some pretty serious wages of the Pope and many of the faithful with a small amount left, "remnant", can't say one way or the other because I personally don't know them and they have some gift. Yet I can atest to this fact some of their claims have gone by unanswered. So I regard their words with a grain of salt. Any words posted here or anywhere. Even if I were hearing from God and He told me to tell you to eat grass everyday to heal your stomach illness, it would be up to you to decide.
So we can't be like the old Jews of the Gospel looking for a sign, because no sign will be given it. Therefore Jesus told us watch and pray. Not looking for sign. Observe. look up for your redempton draweth nigh.
He told us in Gospel of Matthew what the signs would be in Matthew 24:37 And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
We read in Genesis that man was in sin and evil imaginations before the Great Deluge! So great that God wiped all life except for those who entered into the ARK! Who is the Ark in our times? The Virgin!
Go to the VIRGIN!
God Bless
TO SR LN,
Thanks.
A few more Ark comparisons:
Ark of God made of flesh, covered with Gold, reflects the Greater light, saves lives according to Gods Mercy, Compassion and Love. Graces.
Ark of the Covenant made of Gold and materials, reflects the Greater light, destroyed evil according to Gods judgements. To remit sin sprinkling of animal blood.
Ark of Noah, made of gopher wood, pitch, saved mankind and animals. Water flooded earth. Water Baptism, cleanses sin. God cleared the filth of sin.
Do you suppose that if Mary appeared to some young Muslim children they would survive for very long if they told anyone?
don't know Pouliot.
what is death of the flesh? it is ceasing to exist among the flesh. Something we have to detach from in this existence someday, "when" is different for each individual. If we continually live after the flesh we want to keep living in this world. When asked the question: "do you want to survive?", it is like a trick question that the devil throws in your face. The question God asks anyone: "do you want to live forever?" Only God knows if that child believes.
Peace be with you
RE: "don't know Pouliot. what is death of the flesh?..."The objective in this thread is to compare the two religions. I thought the original question about how Muslim children might be treated if they reported a characteristically Christian vision would illuminate a difference and so tend to resolve the question of Islam being a religion of peace.
Pouliot I only answered your question.
To: Need-A-Saint
Do you suppose that if Mary appeared to some young Muslim children they would survive for very long if they told anyone?
secondly:
The objective in this thread is to compare the two religions. I thought the original question about how Muslim children might be treated if they reported a characteristically Christian vision would illuminate a difference and so tend to resolve the question of Islam being a religion of peace.
Paul writes in Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh, but in the spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Peace be with you
(New kid on the block,just waiving a hand.)
Islam is simply christianity revisited.
RE: "Islam is simply Christianity revisited."An unsubstantiated assertion, that. Care to provide examples, instances?
Oh & BTW, you really need to do something about that hand. (Must be your left hand, right?)
pouliot why do you care about the hand? it's a ploy.
yes, grumpy, how is it that you mix everything into one pot?
The paths are distinctive.
Grumpy,
Save the bumper sticker critiques and one-line shockers for junior high school. You are better than that.
I always say, if you are going to have a jihad, it might as well be violent. I think Islam will either straighten itself out or it will die by the sword.
Even Peter wanted to fight with the sword in the beginning. I'll pray that Islam stops being so violent and sees the truth of Christ on the cross.
GK - God is good!
RE: "pray that Islam stops being so violent and sees the truth of Christ on the cross."I'll settle for the result in part one of your prayer. I've tried to say a rosary every morning for an intention like that one. Perhaps a casual reader will join in...?
(New kid on the block,just waiving a hand.)
I believe that the Arab world is about two thousand years behind the rest of humanity in there social responcibilities and will not give up there apetite for violence and revenge in our life time.
Cheer up, grumpy!
Do you not know that Jesus Christ has redeemed the world? Even a culture with a violent tendency which we have a hard time understanding is not beyond the power of Christ. Believe in the good news!
“Desolation and discouragement is of the devil. Ours is a Church of hope." ~St Ignatius of Loyola
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