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(14 posts)Pristinus,
Do not despair. I know you aren't but I had to say it. You are one of the brightest bulbs in the Christmas tree.
This election too will pass. And God will make it play just as it should. Push your voice loud about this Ron Paul guy. I'll look into him now that you have mentioned him.
I'll also sit right next to you in that pan. If you get cooked, I want to be fried in the pan too. We can catch flies while we wait for Christ to take us.
But, I have this feeling that people in America on election day, won't be as media-predictable, as those in the media and the survey companies want them to be. Sometimes it is a few chads that make the difference. Othertimes it is morals and religion. Christ died on that cross. When He was at His weakest ... He was most powerful. They had Him nailed to a tree, naked and near death. And still they couldn't leave Him alone. They called for Him to come down. And He didn't even favor them with a response to that, so different was His Love and His plan from ours. We had no clue. We, were crying or lost or despairing. He was forgiving them and us. He was as weak as weak can be. He was as human as human can be. He was saying "Father why have you abandoned me?"
Bring that election on. We Catholics and we Americans aren't as stupid as the media loves us to be. We speak on election day in private. And that privacy leaves plenty of time for God. He whispers when we are in private. He allows us to do all kind of stupid and sinful things, but He will not allow us to destroy this great nation. This nation will rise after the death we have been through.
I love Him! He dies and nails the whole power thing shut forever!
GK - God is good!
Warren,
I think I learned a long time ago the reason we are forced to study history in schools (not my favorite subject...can't memorize diddly-squat). It is the combination of the two:
1) We learn history so that we learn what NOT to do.
2) History repeats itself.
We easily forget #1, thereby guaranteeing #2.
Unless a country clings desperately to the Charity of Christ, it will and must fail. I have no interest in seeing our country legally embrace a particular religion (THAT, my friends, is separation of church and state). But when the individuals think more of themselves than others, so goes the state...and, well....to put it this way...."There goes the neighborhood."
I have every hope that prayer and mortification for the sake of our country can save it from ruins. I also know that God can make roses grow from garbage, and if we continue on the path of self-destruction, then I know that something even greater can and will resurrect from the refuse.
We go the way of history. Nothing is guaranteed until we are in the New Jerusalem. Until then, we fight with all our might.
The story of the "Rose" is a sweet but sorrowful one.
On the stem are thorns, at the top is a beautiful flowered set of leaves.
The thorns are there for protection from those who do not know how to handle it and from the occasional forgetful minds or hurried people.
I am inclined more to believe a dark time is impending, perhaps even darker than what some might perceive in the initial post. The Congress is now calling for withdrawal in 3 months, & it seems America no longer has the necessary will to fight the Jihadists (if it ever did). When America abandons Iraq there will first be chaos there. It will spread. Iran will come to dominaet the area, oil prices will skyrocket. Overnight the global economy will take a terrible hit. Combined with the increasing demand from China, the outcome is bound to be economic catastrophe, worldwide.
No country, not the United States, not Canada, not England, not France, not Italy, not Germany, none, enjoys the special favor of the Almighty.
Even Israel was oppressed in Egypt & later ravished and taken off to Babylon. The first world countries I named, and any I didn't, are no better than Israel was at either time. Even devout Catholics in these countries will suffer as devout Catholics are suffering now in Iran & Iraq, & China.
I say there is a deeper view that must be taken of events, whether they unfold as I have described elsewhere, or as P.S. has mused here.
When the time of trials comes, & we are all tested to our utmost, many will need something with a believable core to survive. By a believable core I mean something, a reflection, an insight, whatever, that can be grasped with the human mind even without a strong faith. At least we had all best pray for such since none of us knows how strong our faith will be in such times. But first, we must pray for a strengthening of our faith. But perhaps He wills us to pray for everyone's faith to be strengthened.
At yesterday's Mass, at the prayer of the faithful, one of us asked for the conversion of Muslims. A tall order? Yes. But certainly a superior prayer.
What were His words in the Garden, that night? Was it "Pray that you may not be tested," or was it "pray that you may stand firm?"
- Regards,
- Old Sigma (Cradle Catholic & generally inveterate amateur)
Ipoich,
History also builds on itself -- progression; but same stupid sins. One generation trying to out do the other. Reinventing the wheel.
If I must die to a Muslim Jihadist, I will go willingly to Jesus. I would die simply for my faith, with nothing more being as important. I would not do this on my own. Christ would go through it again with me. Has anyone the will to seek pain, torture and death? Only Christ. And only He would die again, with my body. I surely couldn't do it myself.
At that moment I'd want to empty myself into a rosary to Our Lady and her Son. Hopefully by the time I get to the Hail Holy Queen, I'd be finishing that prayer in her actual arms. For without love and prayer and Christ's grace, I cannot even die right.
Come Holy Spirit and renew the face of the earth. Let's roll!
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Peace through Christ and no other means. The new spring time will come.
GK - God is good!
Our Lord didn't say it would be easy. He only said it would be worth it.
I read about St. Gabriel today. Not the angel but an italian seminarian & sharpshooter who single-handedly saved his village from pillage by a group of outlaws. Don't recall the year but he has a surname & he used a rifle so it was likely in the 16th century or later.
Point being, maybe the All-mighty wants His followers to purge this blot on His Son's homeland.
What mercy was shown to the Caananites? Or to those who practiced child-sacrifice? Or to the slave-masters in Egypt?
Is there a blessing for bullets, or ammunition in general?
- Regards,
- Old Sigma (Cradle Catholic & generally inveterate amateur)
looking at the patron saints index (which never makes sense to me as to why these particular saints are linked to particular topics), we find that St. Barbara is patron saint of ammunition magazines and both St. Barbara and St. Erasmus are patron saints of ammunition workers.
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