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  • Started 6 months ago by noelfitz
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noelfitz - Member

Anyone else like to contribute?

Here is a thought.

At Mass some days ago the priest said that the Church controversies in the time of Athanasisus made the Reformation seem like a troublesome family squabble.

What do you think?

God bless,

Noelfitz.

Posted 6 months ago #
lpioch - Moderator

I think that we call all be very provincial in our little "worlds". We often are so egotistical that we think either "Things are worse now than ever before." or "The way things are here is the way they are everywhere." Extremist perceivers with ourselves as the centerpoint.

I do not doubt that Church controversies in the time of Athanasius were much worse than 500 years ago...or even now. We all need to be steeped in history and reality outside of our own selves to gain a little humility (and thankfulness).

It is a small lesson that I continue to learn over and over again.
Born and raised in Texas and now living in Massachusetts, it's like a different world. And I wouldn't be surprised that anyone outside the US might not even see why or how. (Hopefully they needn't!) So if that change in location is "miles apart" (other than the 2000 miles apart they really are), then how much more from country to country? hemisphere to hemisphere?

That's not to point out the differences. It's to put experiences into context. Context is key. Without it, too much nonsense is perceived.

Posted 6 months ago #
noelfitz - Member

Loretta
Good to hear from you.
Your views are always sound.
Today I was reading in our local Catholic paper (The Irish Catholic) about Jehovah Witnesses. The article pointed out that their views are similar to the Arians whom Athanasius fought against. There is nothing new under the sun.
By the way, this priest I regularly refer to, as every day he has some good reflections, was complaining on Thursday about Ascension Thursday being celebrated on Sunday, as we now do in Ireland.

Remember me and my familly in your prayers,

Noelfitz.

Posted 6 months ago #
lpioch - Moderator

We will remember you, of course!
Thankfully, here in Boston, we celebrated Ascension Thursday on Thursday. I noticed the note in the missalette about what prayers would be different if the feast was transferred to the following Sunday. My heart was sad at all the possibilities as to WHY it might be transferred (some very legitimate...some not so). So I think my heart already said a prayer for you this week.

But back to the topic (sort of). It has also been on my heart much lately to get to know the history of our Church much better. A tough thing to do for me personally since I don't have a lot of free time for reading (at least...not as much as I'd like to) and I have vowed to finish JPII's Theology of the Body before I being anything else.

However, I have had my eye on a 3-volume set by Jurgens entitled Faith of the Early Fathers . Lo and behold, my sister sent me an Amazon.com gift card for JUST the right amount to get them. :-) So i got them. I know what I'll be reading next.

Posted 6 months ago #
noelfitz - Member

Loretta,

again, thanks for your post.

I am interested in the early Church. I consider that the Church in the future will be similar to what it was originally, made up of small units and lay folk will play large roles.

In a sense I think the parish system is being weakened.

Maybe when we get back to normal, this topic can be developed and I will tell you about the Community to which I belong.

Thank you for the prayers,

Noelfitz.

Posted 6 months ago #

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