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Why a "U. S. Catechism of The Catholic Church"?

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  • Started 1 month ago by yamabago
  • Latest reply from wljewell

yamabago - Member

Just an open question for thought about something that strikes me as odd; I just saw the advertisement for the new book published by the USCCB, "United States Catechism of The Catholic Church." In light of past liberal leanings of the USCCB, in my opinion, I worry about the need for such a book, and does it differ from the "Catechism of The Catholic Church"? Is the "CCC" not enough? Does it not suffice or stand well enough for all in explaining the doctrines of the Church? After all, is it not the official catechism of the Church, and should not the USCCB be pushing it to the faithful and backing it's teachings directly? Granted, I have not seen the book, but I see no need to.

Posted 1 month ago #
fishman - Member

The CCC was written in the Vatican with the specific intention of it's being used in each country as a basis for developing local catechism which address the specific cultural aspects of a given flock more fully or at length based on the CCC as a template. So the book's origin makes sense. As to it's contents, what can you say other then we must have trust in God to lead our good bishops.

Posted 1 month ago #
lpioch - Moderator

There is also the Compendium to the Catechism. I, too, wonder about a "US" version.

Posted 1 month ago #
yamabago - Member

That's exactly what I was worried about; a book adapted to a specific culture or country. That is not necessary. The CCC is written to define what the Church teaches is our faith, and that truth has not changed over the last two thousand years. I was apprehensive about getting a book in the U.S. that might try to adapt Church teachings to our so called enlightened and modern liberal society and its morals, instead of the society realizing that truth and our faith does not change and maybe it (society) should. All you should need for a different country or culture is the same CCC, but only published in the required language.

Posted 1 month ago #
michaelme - Member

I think there may be a little bit of over-thinking going on.

Though I've not read the book, I'm not willing to suggest that it is bad or unnecessary. It has received approval from the Vatican (Congregation on the Clergy). According to the USCCB it is not intended to supplant the CCC but to be used as a tool for catechetical instruction. The book includes stories of saints to illustrate points as well as address questions.

My understanding is that it is probably a good tool for those unfamiliar with or wanting to learn the faith. It is a teaching tool.

The link above provides a number of resources for understanding the reasons for its development, including a PowerPoint presentation covering the history, reason, and structure.

McBrien's Catholicism is a book about which I think one must have greater concerns.

All that said, this is not an endorsement of the book. I've not read it and so cannot address how good or poor it might be at teaching the true faith...but it sounds like we probably need to look at it before we make judgment.

In Christ,
Michael

Posted 1 month ago #
noelfitz - Member

I note in Wikipedia:

A Catechism of Christian Doctrine, Prepared and Enjoined by Order of the Third Council of Baltimore (or, simply, the Baltimore Catechism) was the de facto standard Catholic school text in the United States from 1885 to the late 1960s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_Catechism).

In 1970, the New American Bible (NAB) was first published. It is an English Bible translation that was produced by members of the Catholic biblical scholars in cooperation with the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_American_Bible).

Thus I consider it appropriate that local Churches have their own books, as cultures vary and the perennial teaching of the Church must be explained to different people in different places and times using suitable language.

Thus the old Baltimore Catechism served American Catholicism well and the NAB is fine for many Catholics in the US.

Thus I wish the US CCC well.

God bless,

Noelfitz.
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Posted 1 month ago #
wljewell - Member

I think I now have four different catechism-based books - and more to come. These are all helpful for illuminating some details of the general CCC that is so rich and powerful.

The Baltimore Catechism, from which abridgement for schools I memorized great hunks in fourth grade, was the American version and edition of our general Trent catechism.

Posted 1 month ago #
lpioch - Moderator

Warren!
You must have heard me ask God about how you are doing 'cause we haven't heard from you in some time. You know you are being prayed for!

Posted 1 month ago #
fishman - Member

hey it is good to hear from you wljewell

Posted 1 month ago #
wljewell - Member

His Son and His Spirit have ben very active with me - thanks to prayers, certainly, which have made me a more and more cheerfully cooperative patient for two fine medical teams and the gracious nursing staff at our hospital. Nurses seem to like patients who are 'patient' and likely to be interrupted praying his Rosary, I find.

I also found that wandering the halls of the ward floor at 4 AM may drive them crazy about my arrythmic heart, but I find it conducive to praying for all those fellow misfortunates in their beds. I even got one old fellow patient to ask for our priest to make a confession he hadn't made in twenty-five years!

My suffering pays its dividends - but, don't stop praying!

Oh, and our hospital broadcasts Brahms Lullaby (SO delightful!) when a newborn is successfully with us. Much to the nurses' mirth, I suggested that they balance the program with a broadcast mark of a lost patient - 'Howzabout "Another One Bites the Dust"?'

And, why is it that I can no longer pre-post to edit my work?

Posted 3 weeks ago #

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