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  • Started 1 month ago by noelfitz
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noelfitz - Member

I see in CE that Warren has written:

'Oh, yea, but the American Church really has to get into intensive catechesis at all levels, and if necessary give argument and debate to even old fools'.

I agree so much with what Warren says, even though politically we may differ.

When I read his elegant posts I am always uplifted and encouraged.

I differ from him in that I hero-worship the priests in the parish I attend, and from which I hope to be buried. I think he has difficulties with his parish.

I seem to disagree with much in CE, but here in this round-table we can discuss issues in depth, knowing we all love and support the Church and each other.

I was not happy with an article complaining about 'oldie'. In the Irish Church they are essentially all that is left.

The priest I admire in a daily homily explained that Napoleon when his armies were under severe attack used to call on his veterans - the Old Guard, who had fought many campaigns. He said to the congregation, most over 65, "I salute you, for you are the Old Guard". He saluted the congregation from the altar.

God bless,

NoelFitz.

PS: Incidentally today he prayed for bankers, that they may reach a satisfactory agreement, and for bank workers who have lost their jobs or whose jobs are under stress.

He also prayed for those who have left the Church, not realizing there is so much spiritual depth available to Catholics in the different spiritualities available within the Church. NF.
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Posted 1 month ago #
fishman - Member

well, noel, as the econmy worsens one affect may well be to cause more people to sincerly seek God.

there is a psalm that says something like 'I called to you and you did not come. I sang to you but you did not dance. I smote you and you come running to me'.

God is a jelous lover and people have been making money more important then him for a long time. Maybe it is about time for a change. I hope so.

God bless good ireland that has always been so catholic. May it remain and become even more so.

Posted 1 month ago #
noelfitz - Member

Fishman

Many thanks for your post.

The Church in Ireland has problems.

However we should all hope in God.

Pessimism is not a Christian virtue.

God bless,

NoelFitz.
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In necessariis, unitas; in dubiis, libertas; in omnibus, caritas.
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Posted 1 month ago #
wljewell - Member

Napoleon was an astute general - and kept a fancy reserve in his Old Guard to finish off enemy formations. Before Waterloo, he was highly successful with his Old Guard. At Waterloo, those flesh-and-blood redoubts of the British forces (composed in good proportion of willing Irish and Scot laddies), their battle squares, gave the Old Guard such casualties that Napoleon's last command to his most beloved battalions was 'Le Garde, recule!' (Effectively, 'RETREAT!' Literally, 'Recall the Guard!') Even then, he knew the Austrians and Russians were coming out of the west and his efforts were doomed. His Frenchmen had nearly won the day.

However, Bonaparte never just sent his Old Guard out - he gave them objectives and direction. Even his last command was 'Save yourself - get back!'
As the Church's Old Guard - what orders of objective and direction does your pastor and mine, your ordinary and mine, have for us? And, have we been held in reserve way too long, now?

Postscript: "ELEGANCE"? You are mightily complimentary. An extra 'Hail Mary' for you, kind sir. And, YOU'RE "odd" in my estimation? Is THAT not broad example of the pot calling the kettle black? I have been so odd all my life I think that I used to try to wear my training pants backwards. And, yea, truly, our Catholicism rests like fine capes on our shoulders, and we can weather storms that will not separate us - may we live forever, my friend, in sanctified oddity and glorious elegance.

Posted 1 month ago #
noelfitz - Member

Warren,

You write: 'An extra 'Hail Mary' for you, kind sir'.

Thank you so much. I appreciate your prayer and your support.

St Thomas Aquinas worried about the eternal salvation of his dead brother, who was a soldier. That worry about the fate of one's relatives is not unique to Thomas.

We can argue which of us is the odder. But I hope that both of us are united in trying to be solidly and faithfully Catholic. This is not up for discussion.

God bless,

NoelFitz.
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Posted 1 month ago #

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